{"id":481494,"date":"2019-01-29T10:50:03","date_gmt":"2019-01-29T17:50:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/?p=785266"},"modified":"2019-01-29T10:50:03","modified_gmt":"2019-01-29T17:50:03","slug":"guitarist-daryl-stuermer-talks-40-year-career-with-genesis-phil-collins","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kqzr\/music-news\/guitarist-daryl-stuermer-talks-40-year-career-with-genesis-phil-collins\/","title":{"rendered":"Guitarist Daryl Stuermer Talks 40-Year Career With Genesis, Phil Collins"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Daryl-Stuermer-phil-collins-guitarist-.jpg\" class=\"ff-og-image-inserted\"\/><\/div>\n<p>On June 23rd, 1974, 21-year-old jazz-fusion guitarist Daryl Stuermer was watching the short-lived talk show <em>Speakeasy<\/em> when the guests for the evening included Beach Boys singer Mike Love, English guitarist John McLaughlin, jazz flutist Charles Lloyd and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/genesis\/\" id=\"auto-tag_genesis\" data-tag=\"genesis\">Genesis<\/a> frontman Peter Gabriel. Stuermer had never heard of Genesis and the brief video segment showing their performance of \u201cSupper\u2019s Ready\u201d did little to win him over. \u201cPeter was wearing a flower on his head,\u201d says Stuermer. \u201cWhen I saw that I thought, \u2018Oh, that\u2019s not my kind of thing. This is ridiculous.&#8217;\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Little could he have imagined that not only would he join the band just four years later, but the young drummer in the background \u2014 a complete unknown named <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/phil-collins\/\" id=\"auto-tag_phil-collins\" data-tag=\"phil-collins\">Phil Collins<\/a> \u2014 would become one of the biggest music acts of the next decade and that he\u2019d bring the guitarist along for the ride. To this day, Collins has never played a solo concert without Stuermer by his side and he\u2019s been a key part of every single album besides 1994\u2019s <em>Both Sides<\/em>. Stuermer has also been on every Genesis tour going back to 1978 besides the short-lived 1998 tour with replacement vocalist Ray Wilson.<\/p>\n<p>As he gears up for yet another leg of Collins\u2019 ongoing Not Dead Yet! comeback tour, Stuermer phoned up <em>Rolling Stone<\/em> to chat about his long career with Phil Collins and Genesis.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Who were your guitar heroes growing up?<\/strong><br \/>I started playing when I was about 11, so I started pretty much listening to guitar players seriously when I was about 12 or 13. Probably the first guitarists that I really started noticing were in the band the Ventures and then Duane Eddy and Chet Atkins. I couldn\u2019t play Chet Atkins, but I sure admired him. That was the very, very beginning and it seemed like as I went along I started getting interested more and more in the blues guys like Mike Bloomfield and Albert King and B.B. King.<\/p>\n<p>Then when I was about 15, I noticed that I was starting to get interested in jazz guitarists. What happened was Joe Pass had put out an album called <em>The Stones Jazz<\/em> where he did all Rolling Stones songs. I thought, \u201cOh, my God, let me check this record out.\u201d It got me interested in jazz because he was playing things that I couldn\u2019t possibly play, notes that I had never heard in rock music. That got me involved with that and probably my favorite jazz guitarist turned out to be Wes Montgomery. And then [Jimi] Hendrix also became a big influence in the rock world.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How aware were you of Genesis in the Peter Gabriel era?<\/strong><br \/>I wasn\u2019t really aware of their music until Phil Collins became their singer and Jean-Luc Ponty, who I was working with at the time, gave me a cassette of their album <em>A Trick of the Tail.<\/em> He said to me, \u201cYou must hear this band. These guys are excellent.\u201d On one side of the tape was <em>A Trick of the Tail<\/em> and another side was <em>Wind and Wuthering<\/em>, though they both ran out around 45 minutes. But they turned me into an instant fan. That was pretty much my formal introduction to Genesis.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How did you get the audition?<\/strong><br \/>Someone else that actually auditioned was a bass player who played some guitar, but what they needed was a guitarist that could play some bass. And so when that that musician didn\u2019t get the gig with them, he actually recommended me and so that\u2019s how that all began. So they flew me to New York and they put me up at the Plaza hotel and I went to the first audition, which was just [Genesis bassist\/guitarist] Michael Rutherford at SIR [Studios]. They had sent me a cassette with five songs on it, including two from their new album <em>\u2026And Then There Were Three\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n<p>They had a cassette player there and they wanted me to play along to the recordings. We probably did two or three minutes of each song and then I remember him saying to me, \u201cI think you\u2019re the one.\u201d I was kind of surprised by that. I also remember him saying, \u201cWell, I have four more guitar players that I\u2019m auditioning here in New York, but I\u2019ll call you at the Plaza at 5 p.m. and I\u2019ll get together with you to tell you the songs that you should learn for the next tour.\u201d That\u2019s what happened. I got back together with him after the audition.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" type=\"text\/html\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/aQvKv_1yBRA?version=3&amp;enablejsapi=1&amp;origin=https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com&amp;rel=1&amp;fs=1&amp;autohide=2&amp;showsearch=0&amp;showinfo=1&amp;iv_load_policy=1&amp;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\">[embedded content]<\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>It\u2019s a strange setup in Genesis since when Steve Hackett was there, Mike would play guitar and bass. When he played guitar, he\u2019d use bass pedals. That\u2019s a pretty odd setup for a rock band, right?<\/strong><br \/>Yeah. It was interesting to me. He said, \u201cCan you play bass?\u201d And I said, \u201cYeah, I dabble in bass playing. My brother was a bass player, so I had a bass guitar around my house. But my main thing is guitar.\u201d So when I first started playing with them, I played very little bass since Steve Hackett had played all these songs prior to Mike being the main guitar player. Mike would mainly just play guitar on the new songs from \u2026<em>And Then There Were Three\u2026\u00a0<\/em>and I\u2019d play on all the older songs where Steve used to play. But as we went along, he would play more and more guitar as we had more albums where he was the guitarist. By 1992, I was playing bass for more than half the night.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How did you prepare for the first tour in 1978? There\u2019s a lot of songs to learn and no room anywhere for spontaneity. It was a very, very precise band.<\/strong><br \/>When he gave me that list of songs to learn, I really sat down and learned them. None of them really read music. I know that Phil and Mike don\u2019t. Tony [Banks] might read music, but they never write anything out. Everything is done by ear, so I would just sit down with these albums and learn. Some of those sounds that Steve Hackett was doing were very new to me. I wasn\u2019t sure if I was hearing a synthesizer or a guitar because of the way he played. It was so brilliant.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Did they let you know from the very beginning that you\u2019d play on the tours, but not the albums?<\/strong><br \/>Yeah. They said to me, \u201cYou\u2019re a touring member of the band.\u201d My favorite line that Phil said about me in an interview was, \u201cDaryl is a permanent, part-time, temporary member.\u201d I love that. I\u2019ve actually used that line myself at times.<\/p>\n<p><strong>At the end of the 1978 tour, did you know if you\u2019d be sticking around for future ones?<\/strong><br \/>I didn\u2019t know. But on the last leg of the tour in December of 1978 I did ask Mike when we were in Japan. I said, \u201cIs there a plan for more touring?\u201d And he said, \u201cNot as of yet. We don\u2019t usually plan that far ahead.\u201d At the time, Mike Rutherford\u2019s wife and Tony Banks\u2019 wife were having babies. I had a pretty good idea they weren\u2019t going to tour in 1979. The only way I found out I was doing the 1980 tour is when they called me up and asked me to do it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What is your first memory of hearing that Phil was going to make solo music?<\/strong><br \/>It was in 1980 and Genesis was rehearsing in England at Shepperton Studios. Phil came up to me and said, \u201cAre you going back to London?\u201d I said that I was and he said, \u201cWell, I\u2019d like to play you something in the car. I\u2019ll drive you.\u201d So we went out to his car and he put a cassette in and played the demo of \u201cIn the Air Tonight.\u201d I remember thinking, \u201cOh, my God.\u201d I didn\u2019t even know that he wrote music by himself since so much of what he did in Genesis was co-written. I thought it was a great song and that it would be great on an album. I asked him what he was going to do with it and he said, \u201cWell, I\u2019m thinking about a solo album.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The cassette had one more song on it, which was \u201cI Missed Again.\u201d It was very different than \u201cIn the Air Tonight.\u201d It almost went to an R&amp;B\/Motown thing. I was amazed at what I heard, but I had no reason to believe that I was going to be doing that record with him.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" type=\"text\/html\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/N-TwVoE3kUw?version=3&amp;enablejsapi=1&amp;origin=https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com&amp;rel=1&amp;fs=1&amp;autohide=2&amp;showsearch=0&amp;showinfo=1&amp;iv_load_policy=1&amp;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\">[embedded content]<\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>What are your memories of recording the finished version of \u201cIn the Air Tonight?\u201d<\/strong><br \/>We were at Village Recorder in West L.A. He already had some stuff on tape. He had the drum machine and the chords on the keyboard. He started the song and he said to me, \u201cWhy don\u2019t you do a big power chord?\u201d It ended up being a power chord, but it was kind of off in the distance. Then we started doing more and more songs and I thought to myself, \u201cI wonder if this album is gonna do well. It\u2019s so diverse.\u201d Not one song sounded like another song. You had R&amp;B songs and rock songs and almost folky-type songs. And then the Earth, Wind &amp; Fire horn section came in. I was a huge fan and since I lived just maybe two miles away from the studio, I came down a lot while they were tracking.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Genesis went out and toured behind <em>Duke<\/em> right in that same time period. Did you start to feel secure with your job at that point?<\/strong><br \/>Yeah. I started to realize that if they did do anything else, they\u2019d probably ask me. All of us almost started to become a family. All of our wives knew each other. It became very comfortable.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How did you hear about <em>Duke<\/em> and <em>Abacab<\/em> when you first heard them? It was a pretty big change in sound.<\/strong><br \/>Yeah. <em>Duke<\/em> was actually the one that surprised me the most. They were getting more modern. They had parts on the album that sounded almost like horns and things like that. Phil became more a part of the music than he ever was before as a writer. Their stuff used to sound very English to me, but with <em>Duke<\/em> I began hearing more of an American R&amp;B influence. I was very happy about it. To this day, my favorite albums are <em>A Trick of the Tail<\/em> and <em>Wind and Wuthering<\/em>, but at the same time I was really happy to hear that they were progressing to a more modern American sound.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" type=\"text\/html\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/KPdEPC2AsB8?version=3&amp;enablejsapi=1&amp;origin=https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com&amp;rel=1&amp;fs=1&amp;autohide=2&amp;showsearch=0&amp;showinfo=1&amp;iv_load_policy=1&amp;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\">[embedded content]<\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>What do you remember about the 1982 reunion show with Peter Gabriel at Milton Keynes?<\/strong><br \/>I remember the rain. What also stands out is that I didn\u2019t know what was going to happen because I had to learn all these old Peter Gabriel songs. We only rehearsed once with Peter and the only actual [solo] Peter Gabriel song that we did was \u201cSolsbury Hill.\u201d Everything else we did was Genesis, but I had never played some of the older ones like \u201cThe Knife\u201d and \u201cWatcher of the Skies.\u201d I had to learn them from the recordings.<\/p>\n<p>The first song of the show was \u201cBack in New York City.\u201d Peter came onto the stage in a coffin. These pallbearers brought him out and I don\u2019t think any of us knew that was going to happen. Then they put the coffin down and it was like he came back from the dead. That\u2019s the first thing I think of when you mentioned Milton Keynes. It was a lot of fun.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Did you know that Steve Hackett was going to come out for the encores?<\/strong><br \/>I didn\u2019t know that, but I knew he was there. It\u2019s funny. A lot of times I\u2019m reading YouTube comments and people always pit me and Steve against each other. They\u2019ll say, \u201cI think Steve is better\u201d or they\u2019ll say \u201cI think that Daryl is better.\u201d What\u2019s funny is that I get along with Steve really well. I think he\u2019s an excellent guitar player. It\u2019s funny that people are trying to make out that we\u2019re enemies.<\/p>\n<p><strong>But that concert is the only time you actually shared a stage, right?<\/strong><br \/>Yes. The only time.<\/p>\n<p><strong>It\u2019s like seeing the two Darrins from <em>Bewitched<\/em> together at the same time.<\/strong><br \/>[<em>Laughs<\/em>] Yeah, I\u2019m the second one, [Dick Sargent]. That\u2019s so funny. When we were at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Steve and I sat next to each other and had a great conversation.<\/p>\n<p><strong>When Phil started to land all these solo songs on the charts, did you think that Genesis was done?<\/strong><br \/>Yeah, I did for a minute. But I never asked him. That\u2019s because it\u2019s one of those things you don\u2019t want to know the answer to since it might not be the answer that you want. Every time we did a [solo] album I thought, \u201cOh, I wonder if he\u2019s going to not have time for Genesis now.\u201d It\u2019s amazing that he lasted as long as he did doing both. I never felt conflicted though. It was good for me because I was in both groups in a sense. I would do whatever tour that he did. It was a usually a year with one and then a year with the other.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Was it hard on your personal life to basically always be on tour?<\/strong><br \/>In the beginning, yeah .What\u2019s amazing is that my wife and I are still together after all this time. It was 40 years on December 11th. We always joke that it\u2019s only been 20 years since I was on the road for the first 20 years. What\u2019s funny is that Mike and Tony both are in marriages that also lasted. They\u2019ve been with their wives even longer than I have been with mine. It does get difficult in the beginning, but as long as you have good communication and you\u2019re still making each other laugh, that holds you together. I have two daughters and now one of my daughters has two daughters, so now I\u2019m a grandparent.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I saw a photo of you guys in the White House once near Ronald Reagan. What was that day like?<\/strong><br \/>We didn\u2019t actually meet Reagan, but there is that photo of us standing there when he just came off one of the helicopters. He walked by with Nancy and waved to us. Genesis had just done that \u201cLand of Confusion\u201d video [featuring a vicious parody of Reagan], so there may have been political reasons why they didn\u2019t want us to meet him. But being in the White House was great. I\u2019d never been there. The people who were taking us around were very nice, though the Secret Service didn\u2019t really have much sense of humor.<\/p>\n<p><strong>When the <em>We Can\u2019t Dance<\/em> tour was happening, did you have a sense that it was going to be the last one?<\/strong><br \/>Yeah. Well, I shouldn\u2019t say that I thought it was the end. What happened is that two years later I was on tour with Phil on the <em>Both Sides<\/em> tour. He was talking to his manager one day and I heard him say, \u201cOh, you know, I\u2019m not doing Genesis anymore.\u201d And I was like, \u201cShit.\u201d I had no idea he was going to stop. That\u2019s how I found out.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" type=\"text\/html\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/garuaYDWm0I?version=3&amp;enablejsapi=1&amp;origin=https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com&amp;rel=1&amp;fs=1&amp;autohide=2&amp;showsearch=0&amp;showinfo=1&amp;iv_load_policy=1&amp;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\">[embedded content]<\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>But the band carried on without you guys. Was there any talk of you doing that tour with Ray Wilson?<\/strong><br \/>I remember thinking, \u201cHow are they going to do an album without Phil?\u201d But then they got Ray Wilson to sing and Anthony Drennan to play guitar. He\u2019s a great guitar player. But I thought, \u201cWell, that\u2019s kind of odd.\u201d Honestly, I was wondering if that was going to work. And, well, it sort of didn\u2019t. There was one album and then they were done. It was really like the Rolling Stones going out without Mick Jagger. Besides being an excellent musician, Phil is an entertainer. And maybe since they didn\u2019t have Chester [Thompson] on drums, they wanted to make a change so it was totally different. But at least I was still doing the Phil thing, which was since.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What was it like playing halftime at the Super Bowl?<\/strong><br \/>That was interesting because I had no idea how much prep went into all that. We spent three days doing it over and over. We had to get the timing exactly right. Then we recorded the music without the vocal so that even though we did a live performance, Phil is singing to a track. But he did sing live.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How did you feel around the time of the First Final Farewell tour in 2004\u201305? Did you worry you\u2019d soon be out of a job?<\/strong><br \/>Yeah. I did think he was serious. At the same time, part of me thought, \u201cReally?\u201d I mean, I can\u2019t imaging retiring ever. Retiring from what? It\u2019s kind of a nice thing to have a job where you get paid very well to make music and you\u2019re in front of people who love you before you even come out. Why retire from that? It\u2019s a great job. It\u2019s a great career. I\u2019ve never had a job other than being a guitar player in bands. I thought to myself, \u201cHe\u2019s going to get bored.\u201d And he did [<em>laughs<\/em>].<\/p>\n<p><strong>Back in 2005, there was a meeting with Peter about the possibility of doing <em>The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway<\/em> on a reunion tour. Were you aware at the time that was being discussed?<\/strong><br \/>Yeah. I think we were in Glasgow. I was sitting in the lobby having a club sandwich at the restaurant bar and they told me they were having this meeting. I thought to myself, \u201cWell, I guess they\u2019re gonna get the five back together again.\u201d And then Mike and Tony come out of the elevator and say to me, \u201cWe\u2019re thinking about doing a tour with you and Chester if you\u2019re into it.\u201d And I thought to myself, \u201cSure I\u2019m into it!\u201d That\u2019s how I found out. I wasn\u2019t at that meeting and I don\u2019t know what they talked about, but I guess that they decided not to do it and then they decided to do it just the three of them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What were rehearsals for that tour like?<\/strong><br \/>It was interesting because we hadn\u2019t played together in 14 years. I remember sitting down for breakfast with Mike at the Peninsula Hotel [in New York] and it was $150 for the two of us. And even Mike who is pretty well off said, \u201c$75 for breakfast?\u201d Anyway, we went to the rehearsal and after about five or six songs I saw Mike and Tony go speak with the manager. I believe they were saying, \u201cHey, this is working.\u201d We weren\u2019t actually rehearsing for the tour yet. We were just going to get together for the week. It was like a pre-rehearsal to see if it was even a possibility. And all the chemistry was there. If felt like it had been 14 months, not 14 years.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" type=\"text\/html\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/PHYomj3Efnc?version=3&amp;enablejsapi=1&amp;origin=https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com&amp;rel=1&amp;fs=1&amp;autohide=2&amp;showsearch=0&amp;showinfo=1&amp;iv_load_policy=1&amp;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\">[embedded content]<\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Did it surprise you that after all these years, you were still playing at places like Giants Stadium?<\/strong><br \/>I think it surprised everybody. I remember talking to a German promoter and I said, \u201cIt\u2019s amazing we\u2019re here at this place for three nights.\u201d He said to me, \u201cActually, you could have done another five.\u201d It was one of my favorite tours. You know when you do something and then you look back and say, \u201cYou know, I really should have savored those moments a little more.\u201d So on that tour I made sure that I always felt great about wherever we were and I thought to myself, \u201cThis is amazing because it\u2019s probably the last time we\u2019ll ever be together.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Once that ended did you think that part of your life was over and you\u2019d never be back in front of big crowds?<\/strong><br \/>I did think to myself, \u201cWell, I guess this is it.\u201d But as I said, I don\u2019t know any musician that retired and then never did it again. Every once in a while, I\u2019d get a phone call to go down to Florida where [Phil] lives and we\u2019d play a Little Dreams Foundation event. For the longest time I thought that was going to be it, but then I started to get a hint that he was thinking about doing something again.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You obviously knew Phil\u2019s son Nic as a little boy. It must be surreal to have him in the band now and doing such a great job.<\/strong><br \/>Right. On the 2004\u201305 tour, there always used to be a little drum kit for little kids set up in a room backstage. He must have been four and he\u2019d be imitating the groove on \u201cSomething Happened on the Way to Heaven.\u201d I used to sit there and think, \u201cMan, he\u2019s really good for four. I wonder if he\u2019ll become a drummer?\u201d Well, of course he did. And he\u2019s just an incredible musician.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Did you worry that the show might suffer if Phil couldn\u2019t stand up?<\/strong><br \/>Oh, yeah, we were all worried about that. We thought, \u201cHow is he going to do that?\u201d But it works because even though he\u2019s sitting there almost all the night, there\u2019s so much activity going on around him. And people love the songs and they don\u2019t mind hearing them whether or not he\u2019s jumping around.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You just did a short tour of America last year. Do you think you\u2019ll come back?<\/strong><br \/>Oh, yeah. I think we only did 15. He wanted to see, \u201cDoes this really work?\u201d But he noticed that it worked really, really well and the audiences were really accepting of the show. We\u2019ll all very happy. I\u2019m sure we\u2019re gonna go and do some more things.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" type=\"text\/html\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/5yD823g2TmQ?version=3&amp;enablejsapi=1&amp;origin=https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com&amp;rel=1&amp;fs=1&amp;autohide=2&amp;showsearch=0&amp;showinfo=1&amp;iv_load_policy=1&amp;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\">[embedded content]<\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you think there\u2019s any chance that Genesis will play again? Phil could sing and Nic could play drums.<\/strong><br \/>Boy, that\u2019s a good question. If I knew I couldn\u2019t tell you, but I don\u2019t know [<em>laughs<\/em>]. I really don\u2019t know that answer. I\u2019ve seen Phil in interviews say that he could do it if Nic was on drums and I thought, \u201cWell, that opens the door for sure.\u201d But who knows? I haven\u2019t asked him if that\u2019s going to happen, but I surely would be open to the idea. Nic is showing that he can handle it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Yes is able to tour with Steve Howe and a bunch of other people and they draw big crowds. Why not do a tour with you, Chester, Mike, Tony and Steve. Maybe Ray Wilson could sing or some other guest.<\/strong><br \/>Well, I\u2019d feel funny about that if Phil wasn\u2019t there. I don\u2019t think they\u2019d want to do that, not after their experience of trying to do that with Ray.<\/p>\n<p><strong>But they called that \u201cGenesis.\u201d This could be \u201cThe Genesis Project\u201d or something. You\u2019d still be more authentic than most bands from that time period these days.<\/strong><br \/>Yeah, especially if you have Mike and Tony and then Chester and I, who are secondary. You\u2019re thinking like an agent. Why not? If Mike and Tony called me up and were like, \u201cDo you want to do that?\u201d I\u2019d be like, \u201cOf course!\u201d But it\u2019s not up to me. It\u2019s up to them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>In the meantime, you get to be on this amazing tour with Phil, which is something not a lot of people thought would ever happen again.<\/strong><br \/>Absolutely. I feel the same way as I did about the last Genesis tour in 2007. I\u2019m savoring it every time that we play.<\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/guitarist-daryl-stuermer-interview-phil-collins-genesis-785266\/\" target=\"_blank\">via:: Rolling Stone<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On June 23rd, 1974, 21-year-old jazz-fusion guitarist Daryl Stuermer was watching the short-lived talk show Speakeasy when the guests for the evening included Beach Boys singer Mike Love, English guitarist John McLaughlin, jazz flutist Charles Lloyd and Genesis frontman Peter Gabriel. 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