{"id":491903,"date":"2019-11-06T10:22:42","date_gmt":"2019-11-06T17:22:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/?p=908550"},"modified":"2019-11-06T10:22:42","modified_gmt":"2019-11-06T17:22:42","slug":"lil-peep-film-directors-talk-docs-toughest-moments-and-interviews-as-therapy-sessions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kqzr\/music-news\/lil-peep-film-directors-talk-docs-toughest-moments-and-interviews-as-therapy-sessions\/","title":{"rendered":"Lil Peep Film Directors Talk Doc\u2019s Toughest Moments and Interviews as \u2018Therapy Sessions\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/image008.jpg\" class=\"ff-og-image-inserted\"><\/div>\n<p>For those who were close to Gustav Elijah \u00c5hr, the release of documentary film <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/lil-peep-documentary-trailer-everybodys-everything-892514\/\"><em>Everybody\u2019s Everything<\/em><\/a> next week may be as difficult as it is cathartic. \u00c5hr, who performed as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/lil-peep\/\" id=\"auto-tag_lil-peep\" data-tag=\"lil-peep\">Lil Peep<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/rising-rapper-lil-peep-dead-at-21-128703\/\">died of a drug overdose<\/a> on tour in 2017 shortly after celebrating his 21st birthday; the film spotlights dozens of friends, family members, and colleagues sharing beloved memories of the young rapper, who\u2019d amassed millions of fans with his uniquely vulnerable songs and harbored a personal ambition to \u201crevolutionize music.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Directors Sebastian Jones and Ramez Silyan whittled down hundreds of hours of footage to a two-hour film accompanied by Peep\u2019s music and an instrumental score composed by Patrick Stump, one of Peep\u2019s musical inspirations. Executive produced by Terrence Malick, Peep\u2019s mother Liza Womack, and Sarah Stennett \u2014 head of First Access Entertainment, the company that\u2019d signed Peep to a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/lil-peep-tragedy-torment-804686\/\">multi-year record deal<\/a> before his death \u2014&nbsp;<em>Everybody\u2019s Everything<\/em> premieres in select theaters on November 15th, with special fan screenings taking place across the U.S. on November 12th. <em>Rolling Stone<\/em> spoke to Jones and Silyan ahead of the release about the film\u2019s difficult subject, its release in the midst of a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/lil-peep-mom-liza-womack-lawsuit-wrongful-death-896348\/\">lawsuit involving two of the executive producers<\/a>, and the purpose of its narrative.<\/p>\n<p> <!-- .l-article-content__pull--left --> <\/p>\n<p><strong>How did this documentary come about and how\u2019d you both get involved?<br \/><\/strong>SEBASTIAN JONES: After Gus died, First Access and Liza were talking about doing a documentary, and Liza wanted to bring Terrence Malick in to make sure things were done right and went smoothly. He\u2019s a family friend of the Womack family and has known Jack, Gus\u2019s grandfather, for many years. I worked with Terry for six years before working on this film and he brought me on to direct.<\/p>\n<p>RAMEZ SILYAN: I had done music videos with Gus, and I was also just filming for him on tour. It\u2019s very rare to become friends with the artist you work with \u2014 you usually stay at arm\u2019s length \u2014 but we became closer and when he passed [and] I heard they wanted to do a doc, I felt a calling to it. I felt attached. I wanted to help spread his legacy. The film was financed by Liza as the Peep estate and FAE in co-production and they brought us on.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The unexpected death of a young artist is a tough subject. What was it like to delve into that?<br \/><\/strong>RS: I did over 145 interviews and it was incredibly difficult because the interviews, being such fresh wounds, were like therapy sessions \u2014 for myself as well, because I\u2019d learn new things and start to form this patchwork about this person who the subjects knew intimately. Someone said \u2014 and I don\u2019t think it made this into the film \u2014 [that] Gus had a way of making everybody feel like they were a hero in their own story. That was the most affecting thing I found. The goal of the film was to try to show that feeling.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How\u2019d you get people to open up for interviews?<br \/><\/strong>RS: It was extremely conversational in nature. Some people were worried about discussing the drug use, but we made it very clear that this was being done with his family and everything was okay to talk about. And that\u2019s not to say that there weren\u2019t things Liza didn\u2019t end up disliking \u2014 there\u2019s one sequence \u2014 well, not everybody loves the whole film, basically, but it was done with respect. The toughest interview was probably Liza. You\u2019re speaking to this incredible woman who just lost her son. You\u2019ll never quite understand it; you\u2019ll never relate. She told me, \u2018It\u2019s the club that nobody wants to be a part of.\u2019 That broke my heart.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How much of the project didn\u2019t make it into the final film?<br \/><\/strong>SJ: It being a documentary, the world was our oyster in terms of the material we had. There was an endless amount of social media material, videos that Liza had personally gathered from VHS tapes of him as a kid, all the tour footage from all the videographers. The initial assembly was around six hours, probably. The guiding principle as I was cutting it down was: What strengthens the film\u2019s thesis? You have to make hard decisions like that. If there are things that don\u2019t really fit into that, they kind of fall away. The things that tell that story float to the top.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How much input did the three people listed as executive producers \u2014 Terrence, Liza, and FAE\u2019s Sarah Stennent \u2014 have in the film?<br \/><\/strong>SJ: Everybody had input, and in a film like this, you\u2019re telling a person\u2019s story and it\u2019s a really serious responsibility. I had creative control and made decisions about what I thought felt the most true. But they were all very involved, Liza especially. She was a researcher on the film as well and gave us access to all kinds of stuff from Gus\u2019s computer [and] messages on his phone.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" type=\"text\/html\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/nV7qfPcyaXQ?version=3&amp;enablejsapi=1&amp;origin=https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com&amp;rel=1&amp;fs=1&amp;autohide=2&amp;showsearch=0&amp;showinfo=1&amp;iv_load_policy=1&amp;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\">[embedded content]<\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Was it ever tense, because of the particular circumstances over Lil Peep\u2019s death?<br \/><\/strong>SJ:&nbsp; I never dealt with First Access all that much, to be honest. They didn\u2019t really micromanage; they weren\u2019t in the editing room over our shoulder. But yeah, people had strong opinions. There were times where things were tense because that\u2019s just the nature of the thing.<\/p>\n<p>RS: The interviews were very therapeutic and Liza was present for a handful of those interviews. But to clarify, they were executive producers but they weren\u2019t involved in the day-to-day. It was mostly our producer above us, Ben Soley, who was the day-to-day manager. I think he came to First Access and this was the first project they put in front of him.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What was the SXSW premiere of the film like?<br \/><\/strong>SJ: The opening night, there were a lot of people from Long Island, friends of Gus\u2019s, Liza and the family. It was a pretty emotional evening.<\/p>\n<p>RS: My favorite reaction was from people who had known who Gus was but he didn\u2019t interest them; they wrote him off, thought he was just another one of those guys with face tattoos, and said this film made them look at it in a different way. That, to me, was the goal: to turn someone from actively disliking to thinking, \u2018Wow, I understand now. I get who this person is now and I shouldn\u2019t have made a flash judgment.\u2019<\/p>\n<p><strong>Did you guys have any part in the Lil Peep album coming out in the next few weeks?<br \/><\/strong>SJ: That album came together after the doc was already done. It\u2019s something Liza organized with Columbia.<\/p>\n<p>RS: Film moves so slow. Music, from what I\u2019ve learned, is lightning fast. The go button gets pressed and they\u2019re like, okay, we\u2019re putting this out next month. They\u2019d planned to do some sort of release, so they said, \u2018Why don\u2019t we tie it to the movie?\u2019 We didn\u2019t know it was going to be called the same thing until like a week ago.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you think of <em>Everybody\u2019s Everything<\/em> as more of a documentary or a film?<br \/><\/strong>SJ: It is a documentary, but, I mean \u2014 it\u2019s a character study. There\u2019s a mixture of those elements. I came from Terry\u2019s work, where I was used to doing narrative features that have documentary elements to them. I don\u2019t keep those things in separate boxes.<\/p>\n<p>RS: I think of it as a documentary film. There are narrative devices that are employed but it\u2019s all from people who are around, and it\u2019s all true.<\/p>\n<blockquote readability=\"7\">\n<p>\u201cMy favorite reaction was from people who had known who Gus was, but he didn\u2019t interest them \u2026 and said this film made them look at it in a different way\u201d \u2013 Ramez Silyan<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Liza recently <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/lil-peep-mom-liza-womack-lawsuit-wrongful-death-896348\/\">filed a lawsuit<\/a> against First Access Entertainment alleging that the company played a role in her son\u2019s death. Did you guys know that was happening while you were putting the film together?<br \/><\/strong>RS: I learned about it the day everyone else did. But I can\u2019t say it was a huge surprise \u2014 there was always tension between them. Liza was very much involved in the film, helping as a historian [and] champion. First Access wasn\u2019t very involved. Part of me feels like that\u2019s because Liza was so involved. But it was pretty obvious that they didn\u2019t get along very well. I see how it becomes this sort of thing, even though that\u2019s not part of the narrative of the film. Sarah and Liza didn\u2019t really interact on this.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How long did the film take to make? And did the narrative change at all during the process?<br \/><\/strong>SJ: We started in January 2018 and the mix and color and all that was February 2019. The order of things didn\u2019t change too much throughout, but in January, we had a rough list of maybe 30 people to interview, and it was way more than that by the end. Many of the interviews were three- to four-hour sessions.<\/p>\n<p>RS: We\u2019d go to Liza\u2019s house in Huntington and she\u2019d show us things that she found. She became a historian finding things and turning over documents and doodles and VHS tapes of Gus dancing when he was young. She devoted a lot of time to finding specific clips, some of which were lost in Hurricane Sandy, and it was wonderful to get those.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Did you find there were parts of people\u2019s narratives that didn\u2019t overlap?<br \/><\/strong>RS: I think any time there\u2019s conflict, there\u2019s going to be varying accounts. I\u2019m a firm believer that the truth lies in the middle. When two sides say different things \u2014 the reality is, you\u2019re going to realize it was a bit of both. It ends up being easy to cut past all that because you\u2019re speaking with so many people in such detail and you\u2019ve got the tapestry and they don\u2019t. You start to know that they might be stretching the truth to make themselves look like a better person.<\/p>\n<p>Nobody wants to come out and say \u201cWe got in an argument, I threw his shit on the lawn and told him to get out.\u201d They want to massage themselves to make it look like they did the okay thing \u2014 but the film isn\u2019t really about trying to parse that. The film doesn\u2019t try to throw anybody under the bus in any way. We were trying to get to the heart of this person\u2019s life, not rehash the issues of people who got into an argument with him or anything like that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The interviews comprise a lot of different voices.<br \/><\/strong>SJ: There\u2019s so many different people from all walks of life in the film.<\/p>\n<p>RS: There\u2019s a section where an artist, Slug Christ, is explaining what punk is and how Peep fits into that lineage from a mattress on the floor, and that\u2019s intercut with Rob Cavallo, a pretty well-known music producer, in his house, with a framed picture of Mozart behind him. I love that egalitarian nature \u2014 we trust both guys the same. They\u2019re both part of the same story, even though there\u2019s a class difference. That\u2019s very Peep to me, mixing raw and grimy with the elegance of something else. We kind of ignored class, because this film was more about character.<\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/lil-peep-directors-film-interview-908550\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">via:: Rolling Stone<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For those who were close to Gustav Elijah \u00c5hr, the release of documentary film Everybody\u2019s Everything next week may be as difficult as it is cathartic. \u00c5hr, who performed as Lil Peep, died of a drug overdose on tour in 2017 shortly after celebrating his 21st birthday; the film spotlights dozens of friends, family members, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[56],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-491903","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","category-music-news"],"acf":[],"publishpress_future_action":{"enabled":false,"date":"2026-08-22 06:46:18","action":"change-status","newStatus":"draft","terms":[],"taxonomy":"category","extraData":[]},"publishpress_future_workflow_manual_trigger":{"enabledWorkflows":[]},"distributor_meta":false,"distributor_terms":false,"distributor_media":false,"distributor_original_site_name":"KQZR - The Reel","distributor_original_site_url":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kqzr","push-errors":false,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kqzr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/491903","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kqzr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kqzr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kqzr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kqzr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=491903"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kqzr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/491903\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kqzr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=491903"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kqzr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=491903"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kqzr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=491903"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}