{"id":1301422,"date":"2018-12-13T14:18:00","date_gmt":"2018-12-13T21:18:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.vaildaily.com\/news\/vail-seeking-a-lot-of-public-comment-on-new-civic-area-planning-process\/"},"modified":"2018-12-13T14:18:00","modified_gmt":"2018-12-13T21:18:00","slug":"vail-seeking-a-lot-of-public-comment-on-new-civic-area-planning-process","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kske\/local-news\/vail-seeking-a-lot-of-public-comment-on-new-civic-area-planning-process\/","title":{"rendered":"Vail seeking a lot of public comment on new \u2018civic area\u2019 planning process"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">VAIL \u2014 For years, Vail officials and residents have talked about what to do with about 10 acres of town-owned property including town hall, the Lionshead parking structure, Dobson Ice Arena and the Vail Public Library. Another effort has just begun.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Meeting in the town&#8217;s Grand View room Tuesday evening, several residents got a first look at the public portion of what&#8217;s being called the Vail Civic Area Plan. The point of the plan is to try to plot the future of the area.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">This isn&#8217;t the first attempt.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Consultant Tom Braun noted that in the mid-1980s, the town looked at something called Congress Haus that included a conference center, among other amenities.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">In the early 2000s, another effort was launched. Again, alternatives included a conference center, and development atop the parking structure.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Other ideas have included adding a branded hotel to the parking structure area. Town voters in the 2000s passed a lodging tax intended to build a conference center, but that project became too expensive, the tax was eliminated and the collected money used for projects including upgrades to Ford Park and the Vail Golf Club clubhouse.<\/p>\n<div id=\"single-mid-script\" class=\"p402_hide\">\n<h2>Recommended Stories For You<\/h2>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The current effort has been bubbling for a few months at the staff and consultant level.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText Subhead\">Drawing community together<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Lou Bieker, of 4240 Architecture Group, talked about general ideas about what kind of focus the area should have.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">&#8220;We have to try to meet the needs of a diverse stakeholder group,&#8221; Bieker said. That means creating conditions that enhance the area for residents, employees and town visitors.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">That could include facilities, as well as other ideas &#8220;to bring the community to this place,&#8221; Bieker said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Eventually, that could mean a parent drops off a kid for hockey practice at the ice rink, then waits by enjoying a program at the library, and finally meeting friends for coffee nearby.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">And, while the civic area isn&#8217;t in a resort area, it&#8217;s easy walking distance to both Vail Village and Lionshead.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The ultimate plan could also help people better enjoy Gore Creek, and, perhaps, discover Middle Creek, which runs roughly between the ice rink and Vail Health hospital.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">With the property, its history and some general ideas identified, it&#8217;s now the public&#8217;s turn to weigh in on what might be best for the area.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Danica Powell, of Trestle Strategy Group, told the group about a new way to weigh in with ideas or comments.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The civic area plan will be the first in Vail to use a new, web-based input system, called <a id=\"N0x1c4d7e0N0x1c96aa0:N0x1c4d7e0N0x1ce3850\" href=\"http:\/\/www.EngageVail.com\">EngageVail.com<\/a>. That platform is being used by a number of cities and towns across the country. Locally, the platform is being used in Eagle, under the <a id=\"N0x1c4d7e0N0x1c96b00:N0x1c4d7e0N0x1ce38e0\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ElevateEagle.com\">ElevateEagle.com<\/a> name.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">While there won&#8217;t be a lot of public meetings before a draft plan is presented to the Vail Planning and Environmental Commission and, ultimately, the Vail Town Council, Powell said the EngageVail system will actually give people greater opportunities to join the planning process.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">On the website, people are asked to complete a survey and include comments on topics including:<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText ListBullet\">What makes a great civic space?<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText ListBullet\">What&#8217;s currently missing (from the civic area)?<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText ListBullet\">What kind of legacy do we want to leave?<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">People who register can also pinpoint areas they&#8217;d like to comment on, and all documents will be on the site.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Audre Engelman, who lives with her husband, Dimitri Moursellas, in a condo at the Four Seasons, will be a nearby neighbor to whatever ultimately happens in the area. Engleman said what she saw Tuesday is a &#8220;great start&#8221; and plans to register on the EngageVail site.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Snowden Smith has worked at the Vail International condos for a number of years, and has seen previous ideas come and go. He said he also plans to register on the EngageVail site.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Tom Saalfeld is the current chairman of the Vail Recreation District Board of Directors. He&#8217;s also seen plans for the area rise and fall but said he&#8217;s encouraged by the start of this one.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">&#8220;There could be a great recreation benefit right here,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText Tagline\">Vail Daily Business Editor Scott Miller can be reached at <span class=\"Hyperlink\"><a href=\"mailto:smiller@vaildaily.com\">smiller@vaildaily.com<\/a><\/span> or 970-748-2930.<\/p>\n<div id=\"single-factbox-mobile\" class=\"visible-xs-block\" readability=\"7.9182692307692\">\n<p class=\"STND-STND Factbox Head\">Get involved<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND Factbox Text\">To learn more about participating in the Vail Civic Area Plan, go to <a id=\"N0x1c4d7e0N0x1c95ae0:N0x1c4d7e0N0x1cf0750\" href=\"http:\/\/www.EngageVail.com\">http:\/\/www.EngageVail.com<\/a>. People who register on the website can leave comments and feedback on any or all parts of the area.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.vaildaily.com\/news\/vail-seeking-a-lot-of-public-comment-on-new-civic-area-planning-process\/\" target=\"_blank\">via:: Vail Daily<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>VAIL \u2014 For years, Vail officials and residents have talked about what to do with about 10 acres of town-owned property including town hall, the Lionshead parking structure, Dobson Ice Arena and the Vail Public Library. Another effort has just begun. 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