{"id":803379,"date":"2020-01-23T12:43:02","date_gmt":"2020-01-23T19:43:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/?p=942010"},"modified":"2020-01-23T12:43:02","modified_gmt":"2020-01-23T19:43:02","slug":"three-members-of-genesis-went-to-a-knicks-game-speculations-abound","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/ksmt\/music-news\/three-members-of-genesis-went-to-a-knicks-game-speculations-abound\/","title":{"rendered":"Three Members of Genesis Went to a Knicks Game \u2014 Speculations Abound"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/01\/genesis-knicks-game.jpg\" class=\"ff-og-image-inserted\"><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/genesis\/\" id=\"auto-tag_genesis\" data-tag=\"genesis\">Genesis<\/a> fans who have spent the last 13 years praying for a reunion woke up this morning to the news that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/phil-collins\/\" id=\"auto-tag_phil-collins\" data-tag=\"phil-collins\">Phil Collins<\/a>, Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks were photographed together last night at a Knicks game.<\/p>\n<p>According to the fansite <a href=\"https:\/\/www.genesis-news.com\/news-Genesis-Meeting-in-New-York-City-n639.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Genesis News<\/a>, there are rumors that the group met up in the city to \u201ctest the waters for future activities.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Still, these rumors require some very, very large caveats. First, Collins turns 69 in one week, so the band might be in town for a birthday party. After all, they remain one of a handful of dormant mega-bands (R.E.M. among them) that remain friends. (They split in 1996 so Collins could focus on his solo career, but it was a very civil parting and they reformed in 2007 for a triumphant reunion tour.) So, any rumors of future activity may based on nothing more than wishful thinking. (A representative for the band merely said there is \u201cnothing to report from this end\u201d regarding the meet-up.)<\/p>\n<p>That said, there are some genuine reasons for hope here. Phil Collins recently finished his <em>Not Dead Yet<\/em> world tour and has a blank calendar for the foreseeable future. Mike Rutherford has toured heavily with a new incarnation of Mike and the Mechanics in recent years, but he also has nothing on the books going forward. Tony Banks released a classical album in 2018, but he\u2019s never toured outside of Genesis and shouldn\u2019t have much trouble fitting a reunion into his schedule.<\/p>\n<p> <!-- .l-article-content__pull--left --> <\/p>\n<p>Collins also played a handful of Genesis songs on his last tour and was joined by Rutherford for 1978\u2019s \u201cFollow You Follow Me\u201d at a June 2019 show in Berlin. Long-time Genesis touring guitarist Daryl Stuermer is a member of Collins\u2019 touring band, so this was pretty close to a Genesis reunion itself. And as the tour wound down near the end of 2019, Collins teased the subject of a Genesis reunion at many shows. \u201cWe remain close friends,\u201d he\u2019d often say \u201cSo you never know\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" type=\"text\/html\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/E4Up_RGqw3k?version=3&amp;enablejsapi=1&amp;origin=https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com&amp;rel=1&amp;fs=1&amp;autohide=2&amp;showsearch=0&amp;showinfo=1&amp;iv_load_policy=1&amp;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\">[embedded content]<\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p>When <em>Rolling Stone<\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/mike-rutherford-mechanics-interview-genesis-phil-collins-821825\/\">spoke to Rutherford<\/a> in April 2019, he wasn\u2019t willing to rule a reunion out. \u201cI always say, \u2018Never say never,&#8217;\u201d he said. \u201cLook, if you asked me two or three years ago when Phil was retired, I would have said, \u2018No.\u2019 But there\u2019s no plans. Let\u2019s establish that. I\u2019m going to go on tour with Phil for six shows in June. That\u2019s with the Mechanics. It\u2019ll be quite fun for us. But never say never. The fact that he\u2019s back on the road is quite interesting.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A major roadblock that seemed to prevent a Genesis reunion for years was the simple fact that Collins can no longer play drums due to nerve damage in his hands. He switched from the band\u2019s drummer to their lead singer in 1976 when Peter Gabriel quit the band, although he continued to sit behind the kit for large chunks of their live shows. But his teenage son Nicholas now drums at his solo gigs and he recreates his parts with stunning precision.<\/p>\n<p>When <em>Rolling Stone<\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/phil-collins-teenage-son-nic-talks-drumming-for-dad-127269\/\">spoke with Nicholas in 2017<\/a>, we raised the prospect of him playing for Genesis one day. \u201cI would be ecstatic if that happened,\u201d he said. \u201cThat Genesis stuff, drumwise, is something else; absolutely unbelievable. But, to be honest, I don\u2019t think there will be another Genesis reunion tour. They did it in 2007 and I doubt it\u2019ll happen again.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Still, lot can change in three years. Since that time, Collins hit just about every market in the world on tour. Another solo tour at this point wouldn\u2019t be a huge deal, whereas a Genesis one would be enormous. They played stadiums in 2007 and easily could again \u2014 especially in Europe.<\/p>\n<p>When they quietly came together in 2006 to see if a reunion was feasible, rehearsals took place in New York City. For all we know, they are holed up somewhere now seeing if a Phil\/Mike\/Tony\/Daryl\/Nicholas lineup can handle \u201cTonight Tonight Tonight\u201d and \u201cIn The Cage.\u201d (And, if they want to recreate the signature two drummer Genesis sound, there\u2019s no reason long-time touring drummer Chester Thompson can\u2019t join in on the fun.)<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"embed-youtube\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" type=\"text\/html\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/aIlfXLKnRkM?version=3&amp;enablejsapi=1&amp;origin=https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com&amp;rel=1&amp;fs=1&amp;autohide=2&amp;showsearch=0&amp;showinfo=1&amp;iv_load_policy=1&amp;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\">[embedded content]<\/iframe><\/span><\/p>\n<p>To add speculation on top of speculation, it\u2019s possible, although far less likely, that Peter Gabriel and guitarist Steve Hackett would be involved in a reunion. Gabriel hasn\u2019t released an album of new songs since 2002\u2019s <em>Up<\/em> and hasn\u2019t toured since his 2016 co-headlining run with Sting. His future plans are a complete mystery. Hackett is in a very different position since he has dates booked through the end of the year, but any Genesis tour probably wouldn\u2019t happen until 2021. He\u2019s said many times that he\u2019d happily participate if they ask him.<\/p>\n<p>The dream scenario for many fans is a tour that includes Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, Mike Rutherford, Tony Banks, Steve Hackett, Nicholas Collins, Daryl Stuermer and Chester Thompson. They could do two nights in every city. Peter Gabriel would front the band the first night and Phil Collins on the second one. Hackett could perform on any song the band released from 1971 to 1977 and Collins could sit near his son and contribute background vocals and maybe some light percussion on the Gabriel songs.<\/p>\n<p>Nothing like this has ever happened in rock history and almost certainly won\u2019t happen this time. It\u2019s nothing more than ludicrous fan fiction and pegging it to three old friends catching a Knicks game together is insane. But it does feel like <em>something<\/em> might be in the works and a Phil\/Mike\/Tony Genesis tour of 2021 feels very far from impossible. We\u2019ll see.<\/p>\n<p>In the meantime, we hope they enjoyed the game last night. They weren\u2019t seated far from Vanessa Hudgens and they got to see Lebron James score 36 points. It must have been fun.<\/p>\n<div class=\"pmc-contextual-player\">\n<h3> Popular on Rolling Stone <\/h3>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/genesis-knicks-game-942010\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">via:: Rolling Stone<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Genesis fans who have spent the last 13 years praying for a reunion woke up this morning to the news that Phil Collins, Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks were photographed together last night at a Knicks game. According to the fansite Genesis News, there are rumors that the group met up in the city to [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[98],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-803379","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-music-news"},"acf":[],"publishpress_future_action":{"enabled":false,"date":"2026-07-24 21:50:40","action":"change-status","newStatus":"draft","terms":[],"taxonomy":"category","extraData":[]},"publishpress_future_workflow_manual_trigger":{"enabledWorkflows":[]},"distributor_meta":false,"distributor_terms":false,"distributor_media":false,"distributor_original_site_name":"KSMT The Mountain","distributor_original_site_url":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/ksmt","push-errors":false,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/ksmt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/803379","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/ksmt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/ksmt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/ksmt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/ksmt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=803379"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/ksmt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/803379\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/ksmt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=803379"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/ksmt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=803379"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/ksmt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=803379"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}