{"id":805177,"date":"2020-03-12T13:56:49","date_gmt":"2020-03-12T19:56:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/?p=966391"},"modified":"2020-03-12T13:56:49","modified_gmt":"2020-03-12T19:56:49","slug":"why-cancel-concerts-a-doctor-explains-coronavirus-spread","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/ksmt\/music-news\/why-cancel-concerts-a-doctor-explains-coronavirus-spread\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Cancel Concerts? A Doctor Explains Coronavirus\u2019 Spread"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/ConcertCrowd.jpg\" class=\"ff-og-image-inserted\"><\/div>\n<p>With concerns rapidly rising about the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/coronavirus\/\" id=\"auto-tag_coronavirus\" data-tag=\"coronavirus\">coronavirus<\/a> pandemic in the U.S., mega-promoters Live Nation and AEG, along with the major concert booking promoters, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/live-nation-halts-touring-coronavirus-966385\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">announced their recommendation<\/a> Thursday that \u201clarge-scale events through the end of March\u201d should be postponed. Is such a dramatic step necessary? The answer, according to Dr. Daniel Griffin, an infectious disease physician specialist at Columbia University, is a clear yes.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Griffin spoke with <em>Rolling Stone<\/em> just minutes before the Live Nation\/AEG announcement to explain why concerts should be canceled for now as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/covid-19\/\" id=\"auto-tag_covid-19\" data-tag=\"covid-19\">COVID-19<\/a> spreads \u2013 and why music fans shouldn\u2019t attend them if the shows go on.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How are you holding up?<br \/><\/strong>Staying busy. Hospitals are usually at 98 percent; so are doctors. And I\u2019m not sure how we squeeze all this into the last two [percent].<\/p>\n<p><strong>To get right to it: If it were up to you, would all concerts be canceled for the foreseeable future?<br \/><\/strong>Sorry to say yes. The concern we\u2019re seeing now is that, as we have an increased capacity to do testing, we\u2019re seeing that this virus is already widespread in the country. You go to a concert, there\u2019s that many people and that level of transmission that occurs at a concert. Unfortunately, those will be big spreading events.&nbsp; I could see an exception for an intimate outdoor event where there\u2019s not crowding&nbsp; \u2013 thinking of the different music venues I\u2019ve been to over the years, I remember an outdoor Arlo Guthrie concert at Martha\u2019s Vineyard\u2026<\/p>\n<p> <!-- .l-article-content__pull--left --> <\/p>\n<p><strong>Just to be totally clear, though, you\u2019re referring to clubs, arenas, stadiums, ampitheaters \u2013 none of these should be having concerts right now?<br \/><\/strong>Yes, that\u2019s basically what I\u2019m referring to. We\u2019ve been for a while sending the message of, \u201cEveryone stay calm, we\u2019re doing everything we can.\u201d And some people are saying, \u201cReally?\u201d And the \u201cReally\u201d is starting to get a little louder when they say, \u201cIsn\u2019t that a woman in her thirties who just got admitted to the intensive care unit? You said only old people got sick.\u201d And we\u2019re starting to see that. I say no one under the age of nine has died. And the question I get now is, \u201cThat means a nine-year old died?\u201d And I say, \u201cThat is what that means.\u201d That\u2019s why I say no one<em> under<\/em> nine. You know, teenagers have died, unfortunately. And people in their twenties and thirties. So if you create a situation where there\u2019s spread \u2014 a certain percent of every age group, at least above the age of nine, there will be deaths.<\/p>\n<p><strong>As we speak, there\u2019s a Billie Eilish concert still scheduled for Madison Square Garden on Saturday.&nbsp;<em>[Note: The concert now appears to have been canceled or postponed, along with other events in New York state.]<\/em>&nbsp;What do you make of that?<br \/><\/strong>Sounds like it\u2019s out of a bad movie. Here we are in clearly one of the hot zones. &nbsp;I think if that concert goes ahead, people will look back on that and just wonder, what were people thinking, to continue, to not cancel it? And what were the people thinking who went and attended? And not only will they pick it up at the concert, but then, as human beings do, they\u2019re going to leave that concert, they\u2019re gonna go somewhere else \u2013 probably to their homes, their family, their friends, their loved ones, having been exposed,. A percentage of them \u2013 we\u2019ve seeing now about a third of people, 35 percent \u2013 at large gatherings like this get infected, and then that just spreads and spreads.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Can you elaborate on that 35 percent figure?<br \/><\/strong>Yes, it\u2019s actually an interesting issue. People are learning the vocabulary that we learned through our training. One of the things that people talked about was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.healthline.com\/health\/r-nought-reproduction-number\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">R0<\/a> \u2013 if one person has it, how many other people do they in general, infect? With measles, one person can give it to 18.&nbsp; COVID-19, you <em>generally<\/em> spread it to two or three other people. But there was a study that came out of China a couple weeks [ago] where they said, if you get 100 people together for dinner, what percent, in general, of the people that come to these gatherings, will end up getting infected? And the number that came was about 35 percent of the people that attend these gatherings end up infected.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Again, that is from one single person at a gathering?<br \/><\/strong>That\u2019s what all the studies say. In one case there was a dinner with 117 people. 43 of them, I think, got infected. If you get people together with one infected person, you can have major spreading events.<\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-news\/coronavirus-covid-concerts-canceled-966391\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">via:: Rolling Stone<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>With concerns rapidly rising about the coronavirus pandemic in the U.S., mega-promoters Live Nation and AEG, along with the major concert booking promoters, announced their recommendation Thursday that \u201clarge-scale events through the end of March\u201d should be postponed. Is such a dramatic step necessary? 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