{"id":2440835,"date":"2019-02-21T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-02-21T07:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/?p=299335"},"modified":"2019-02-21T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2019-02-21T07:00:00","slug":"affordable-housing-traffic-dominate-forum-on-aspens-lift-one-plan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kspn\/local-news\/affordable-housing-traffic-dominate-forum-on-aspens-lift-one-plan\/","title":{"rendered":"Affordable housing, traffic dominate forum on Aspen\u2019s Lift One plan"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText DropCap\">Proponents and foes of the Lift One Corridor Plan did their best to sway voters at a forum Wednesday night by presenting their visions of what the development at the western base area of Aspen Mountain will mean for the town.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The proponents and critics traded their visions and a few barbs at a forum hosted by The Aspen Times. The election is March 5, though ballots are in Aspen residents&#8217; hands now.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Proponents Jeff Gorsuch, Michael Brown and Jim DeFrancia said the Lift One Lodge and Gorsuch Haus combined with associated bars, restaurants, skier services, a ski museum and a replacement for Lift 1A will restore that area of Aspen Mountain to its former glory.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">They said the project is vital for the evolution of the community and for economic vitality.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">But Aspen Councilman Bert Myrin and Aspen resident John Doyle, who both oppose the project, said the vitality comes at too great a cost in construction impacts, increased traffic and increases in the shortage of affordable housing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Myrin said members of the Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission characterized the project as providing public amenities at the cost of affordable housing.<\/p>\n<div id=\"single-mid-script\" class=\"p402_hide\">\n<h2>Recommended Stories For You<\/h2>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">&#8220;That&#8217;s the sacrificial decision people need to make,&#8221; Myrin said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The proponents hammered on the public benefits of the project.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Brown, who is a partner in the Lift One Lodge, said a critical component of the overall project is bringing a replacement for Lift 1A about 500 feet farther downhill. A coalition of the developers, city of Aspen representatives and consultants figured out the engineering necessary to achieve the popular goal of making the lift accessible from Dean Street.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">&#8220;It was sort of an Excalibur moment,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The Lift One Lodge would add 34 fractional interest and six full-interest residential units to the base. Brown was willing to redesign the project to accommodate the extended chairlift.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">He also touted the hotels as adding much-needed tourist accommodations where they will be most effective \u2014 at one of the portals to the mountain. Combined, they will provide 185 keys to units available to tourists.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">&#8220;These hotels are in the exact right locations, as determined by the city,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Jeff Gorsuch, a partner in the proposed 81-room Gorsuch Haus hotel, stressed that the project presented an excellent opportunity to bring World Cup ski racing back to Aspen. He claimed the project, which would add 320,000 square feet of development, is about &#8220;community first, development second.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Doyle and Myrin questioned how the project benefits the community, particularly because the two projects combined will only house 67 employees. Lift One Lodge will employ an estimated 100 workers, according to Brown. Gorsuch Haus likely will employ 65, though it had earlier been estimated as high as 80, according to Jim DeFrancia of Lowe Enterprises, a hotel company that is a partner in the project.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Doyle questioned why the developers weren&#8217;t housing more of their workers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">&#8220;I feel that if they&#8217;re community-minded like they say they are, how is that possible? They&#8217;re not housing the employees they agreed to. It changed from 100 percent of employees housed to the current level, seemingly overnight,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Doyle was referring to a prior Lift One Lodge approval that required housing for all 35 full-time employees.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Brown countered that both projects are using an incentive provision in the city land-use code that reduces employee-housing mitigation in return for construction of high-density lodging.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">&#8220;We depended on the land-use code that&#8217;s in place right now,&#8221; Brown said. &#8220;These properties fully mitigate for what&#8217;s in the code.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">In addition, Brown said the projects would raise millions of dollars through a sales tax dedicated to housing and a real estate transfer assessment. Those funds could help the city build its proposed Burlingame III affordable-housing project and get the BMC West project started, he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Traffic also was a point of contention in the debate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Doyle said Aspen residents would be forced to absorb thousands of dump truck trips as dirt is hauled off site. He said the city&#8217;s planning department estimated there could be as many as 11,000 dump truck trips added to Aspen&#8217;s traffic during construction.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Brown said the figure was high because much of the dirt will be required onsite. DeFrancia also noted that all construction has impacts, but they are temporary. Most of the earth moving will be carried out during offseasons, he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Brown sparked groans of disbelief from some audience members when he said the development team&#8217;s traffic consultant determined there would be &#8220;no negative impacts from the development&#8221; in the long run.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">DeFrancia jumped in and said the project will create an environment where guests don&#8217;t need private vehicles and that employees housed outside of Aspen will have incentives to take RFTA buses.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">He said the current scenario at the Lift 1A base promotes more traffic. Guests at the Limelight, Dancing Bear and St. Regis Hotels \u2014 closest to Lift 1A \u2014 don&#8217;t want to climb an icy street to access a slow, antiquated chairlift. Instead they get the properties to shuttle them to the base of the Silver Queen Gondola, adding to Aspen&#8217;s traffic congestion.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The Lift One properties are planning to accommodate some traffic. An underground parking garage will include 182 spaces for their use and 50 public spaces.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Myrin predicted that Aspen&#8217;s housing shortage would grow more severe and traffic more intense once the W Hotel and Aspen Club are completed. Adding the Lift One properties to the mix will make the problems even worse. Doyle concurred that Aspen residents will live with the impacts of construction for years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">&#8220;To deny it is ridiculous,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The two sides also sparred over how effective the proposal will be at restoring vitality and if that should be a priority. The proponents said the &#8220;hot&#8221; beds at the Gorsuch Haus and the &#8220;warm&#8221; beds at Lift One Lodge, which may not turn over as frequently, will supply customers for a broad spectrum of Aspen&#8217;s restaurants and shops. Aspen has lost an estimated 1,700 lodge rooms since 1990 as property values soared and developers converted hotels to second-home condos. The new project would help offset a portion of that loss, they said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">&#8220;We are a tourist town. We are a tourist economy,&#8221; DeFrancia said. &#8220;We need lodging.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Gorsuch Haus will be &#8220;an upper-end product&#8221; with rates on par with the Hotel Jerome, Little Nell and St. Regis, he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Doyle questioned if Aspen needs any more high-end lodge rooms.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Brown responded, &#8220;Does it really matter if a guest is staying at the Tyrolean Lodge, the Mountain Chalet, the Hotel Jerome or the Little Nell? They&#8217;re all coming here because they want to be skiing here in our community.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Myrin said the city government&#8217;s priority should be focused on addressing its residents&#8217; needs. A lot of free-market affordable housing has been displaced because owners can rent it out for more money through vacation rental sites.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">&#8220;Our focus needs to be on keeping community here, not continuing to build 1,700 beds,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">On the tourist accommodation side, Myrin noted that Aspen is near capacity at certain times \u2014 Fourth of July, Christmas and New Year&#8217;s weeks and a handful of others. But the majority of the time can be better utilized, he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">&#8220;I&#8217;m not persuaded that we need to be busier on our busiest nights,&#8221; Myrin said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The debate also focused on the status of the Lift 1A replacement \u2014 the top issue for some Aspen residents. During earlier hearings on the plans, there was widespread support for bringing the lift down to Dean Street.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Myrin stressed the city possesses no leverage to make sure the replacement lift gets built.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Brown countered, &#8220;I think that&#8217;s amazing fear-mongering.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">He said Aspen is blessed to have &#8220;one of the best ski operators in North America in the Aspen Skiing Co.&#8221; Their customer service is paramount, so they will replace the lift, he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">DeFrancia said Skico is contractually obligated to install the lift as Lift One Lodge and Gorsuch Haus progress, and Skico will pay for the lift.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">&#8220;In the end of the day, the ski company is in the ski business. They want a new lift,&#8221; he said. &#8220;They want to enhance the vitality of that portal to the mountain and they are particularly interested in returning World Cup ski racing to Aspen.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">DeFrancia said World Cup officials are demanding not just a new lift but an improved base area as a condition for returning.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">&#8220;One of the FIS people said, &#8216;I don&#8217;t think you understand. In Europe, when people are watching international ski racing in Aspen, they think they&#8217;re looking at a Third World nation,'&#8221; DeFrancia said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Without Gorsuch Haus, the replacement of the lift would be delayed for an unknown amount of time, he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">If Aspen voters defeat the ballot question March 5, Brown said his team would pursue construction of Lift One Lodge as approved in 2011. That design would not accommodate the chairlift farther down the mountain.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">DeFrancia said the Gorsuch team would go back to the drawing board and the chairlift&#8217;s lower terminal would be close to the existing location.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">&#8220;I don&#8217;t see that personally being in the interest of the community,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText Tagline\"><a href=\"mailto:scondon@aspentimes.com\">scondon@aspentimes.com<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/news\/local\/affordable-housing-traffic-dominate-forum-on-aspens-lift-one-plan\/\" target=\"_blank\">via:: The Aspen Times<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Proponents and foes of the Lift One Corridor Plan did their best to sway voters at a forum Wednesday night by presenting their visions of what the development at the western base area of Aspen Mountain will mean for the town. 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