{"id":2440966,"date":"2019-02-24T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2019-02-24T07:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/?p=299725"},"modified":"2019-02-24T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2019-02-24T07:00:00","slug":"glenn-k-beaton-dems-shooting-themselves-in-foot-with-electoral-college-compact","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kspn\/local-news\/glenn-k-beaton-dems-shooting-themselves-in-foot-with-electoral-college-compact\/","title":{"rendered":"Glenn K. Beaton: Dems shooting themselves in foot with Electoral College compact"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText DropCap\">Dems are still smarting from losing the 2016 presidential election by losing the Electoral College.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">So they have an idea. Apart from the dubious constitutionality of their idea, it&#8217;s a bad one which can only help the GOP.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">First some background. The Constitution says the president is elected by the Electoral College. The College comprises 538 voters who are allocated as follows: Each state gets two, corresponding to its two senators, plus a number equal to its number of House representatives, plus the District of Columbia gets three.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The effect is that the College voters are spread among the states and D.C. roughly in proportion to population. And so you might think that the College voting would be proportional to the popular vote.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Nope. The kicker is that in nearly all states it&#8217;s winner-take-all. If the candidates split the popular vote in a state by, say 51 percent to 49 percent, then the College votes in that state are not split proportionately. Instead, the winner of the 51 percent of the popular vote gets 100 percent of the College votes for that state.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">That&#8217;s how President Ronald Reagan ran up a humiliating 525 to 13 College win over Walter Mondale in 1984 \u2014 which translates into a 97 percent to 3 percent margin \u2014 even though the popular vote margin was only a landslide of 59 percent to 41 percent.<\/p>\n<div id=\"single-mid-script\" class=\"p402_hide\">\n<h2>Recommended Stories For You<\/h2>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">This works both ways, of course. The Dem candidate can run up a disproportionate College win with only a modest popular win, as President Barack Obama did twice.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Once in a while, the College can even give the presidency to the candidate who lost the popular vote. This happens when one candidate runs up huge margins over the other in populous states, while the other candidate wins the other states by more modest margins. If a candidate wins every single vote in California and New York, for example, she still only gets a total of the 84 College votes allocated to those two states.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Something like this happened in 2016 when Hillary Clinton won some of the populous states by huge margins but Donald Trump won many other states by slim margins. In the winner-take-all system of state College votes, he won the election.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">I&#8217;m not here to debate whether the College is a good system. There are pros and cons. But it is indisputably one of the checks and balances the founders deliberately put in place. (Another is allocating two senate seats to each state regardless of its population.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The Dems would like to abolish this system because it hurt them in 2016. Of course, it could help them in some election in the future, but politicians don&#8217;t have the analytical ability to fight any war but the last one.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Despite the Dems&#8217; wish, the College won&#8217;t be abolished. That would require an amendment to the Constitution. The odds of that happening are 0.00 percent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Here&#8217;s their fallback idea.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The states would enter into a &#8220;compact&#8221; that would work something like a multiparty contract. They would each agree that they would cast their respective College votes for the candidate that wins the national popular vote. If all the states entered into this compact, and if it survived Constitutional challenges, then the winner of the popular vote would thereby win all the electoral votes. Every election would be a 538-to-0 decision in the College.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">But in the real world, not all states will enter into this compact. That&#8217;s because the College currently seems to favor the GOP. Sure, the blue states like California, New York and Illinois will sign up. But red states like Texas and the rest of the south and the mountain states won&#8217;t. And purple states like Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania and others probably won&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">So only the blue states will be bound by their compact.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">In theory, this blue state compact will play out in two different scenarios, but in a practical sense only one will actually happen.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">One theoretical scenario is that the voters in the blue states in the compact will vote blue, as voters in blue states do, while the national popular vote goes red. If that happens, the blue states will disenfranchise their voters by requiring their College votes to vote red. The result could well be that the GOP candidate wins the election even though he would have lost the College vote under current rules.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The other scenario is that the voters in the blue states in the compact vote red, while the nation at large votes blue. That&#8217;s the scenario that the Dems want to prevent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">But that scenario won&#8217;t happen. Voters in a blue state don&#8217;t vote red in a national election where the blue candidate wins the popular national vote. If they did, it wouldn&#8217;t be a blue state.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Here&#8217;s the bottom line.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Unless the Dems convince plenty of red or at least purple states to join their compact, which is unlikely, the net effect of their compact will be that they will override the will of their citizens only when their citizens vote for the Dem candidate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">I recognize that Dems are fighting mad. Nobody likes to lose. But maybe they should think this through before they express their madness in a mad way \u2014 even if it feels good not to.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText Tagline\">Correspond and subscribe at <a href=\"mailto:theAspenbeat@gmail.com\">theAspenbeat@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/opinion\/glenn-k-beaton-dems-shooting-themselves-in-foot-with-electoral-college-compact\/\" target=\"_blank\">via:: The Aspen Times<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dems are still smarting from losing the 2016 presidential election by losing the Electoral College. So they have an idea. Apart from the dubious constitutionality of their idea, it&#8217;s a bad one which can only help the GOP. First some background. The Constitution says the president is elected by the Electoral College. 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