{"id":2441429,"date":"2019-03-07T08:36:00","date_gmt":"2019-03-07T15:36:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/?p=804248"},"modified":"2019-03-07T08:36:00","modified_gmt":"2019-03-07T15:36:00","slug":"punk-johnny-rotten-marky-ramone-spar-at-off-the-f-king-rails-documentary-event","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kspn\/music-news\/punk-johnny-rotten-marky-ramone-spar-at-off-the-f-king-rails-documentary-event\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Punk\u2019: Johnny Rotten, Marky Ramone Spar at \u2018Off the F\u2013king Rails\u2019 Documentary Event"},"content":{"rendered":"
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At the SIR Studio in West Hollywood Monday night, a panel discussion of punk rock icons devolved into filth and fury \u2013 what better way to  honor the Epix network\u2019s new docuseries, Punk<\/em><\/a>, which premieres on March 11th? At the heart of the disruption was John Lydon<\/a> (a.k.a. Johnny Rotton). The Sex Pistol sparred with Marky Ramone and Henry Rollins<\/a> while the genre\u2019s other icons watched with smirks and wide eyes.<\/p>\n

The conversation took place after a screening where the Justice League of punk trailblazers aligned in front of the screen. Henry Rollins, Duff McKagan, Lydon, Punk<\/em> producer John Varvatos, Ramone and L7<\/a>\u2019s Donita Sparks convened ostensibly to answer some questions about the genre\u2019s legacy (I served as the moderator) but once the conversation got going, it took on a life of its own.<\/p>\n

First, things got heated between Lydon and Rollins. \u201cHenry, we ain\u2019t never met before, have we?\u201d Lydon said, as seen in a clip. \u201cYou\u2019ve said silly things but excellently good things, too.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cAnd you called Black Flag a bunch of suburban risk kids and we wanted to tear your ears off,\u201d Rollins said.<\/p>\n

\u201cYes, I did, but I didn\u2019t like the fucking music,\u201d Lydon said. \u201cIt was boring<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n

And then Lydon went on to assert that a big difference between the Pistols and Black Flag was that Lydon sang clearer. \u201cDon\u2019t talk Black Flag, Pink Flag, White Flag,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n

Later, in the panel, Lydon and Marky Ramone came to blows, reviving a rivalry that has lasted decades. After the drummer spoke to how the Ramones<\/a> blazed a trail for punk in New York and took that to London, Lydon said that he was \u201cnot even an original Ramone.\u201d \u201cBut I did the Blank Generation<\/em> album with Richard Hell, and you took his image,\u201d Ramone replied. \u201cAll you guys took Richard Hell\u2019s image. That\u2019s all you did.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cAnd you\u2019re still covering your fucking ears,\u201d Lydon said, grimacing that he\u2019d gotten a rise out of the drummer.<\/p>\n

\u201cAnd Sid Vicious was the star,\u201d Ramone said, prompting Lydon to smile and stick his tongue out. \u201cThat\u2019s right, he was,\u201d Lydon replied. \u201cHe was the star for fake idiots like that. enjoy your drugs.\u201d<\/p>\n

Lydon then continued his attack on the drummer. \u201cPunk music for me was positive, proof positive, that we could change our lifes by music, meaning what we said, attack the political systems,\u201d he said. \u201cThis daft cunt is into fucking drugs.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cYou talk the talk, but you didn\u2019t do the walk, just like the MC5,\u201d Ramone said. Lydon then stood up and danced around, \u201cHello, Johnny Rotten<\/a> never did the walk?\u201d Then as Ramone continued, Lydon looked at hime and said, \u201cLook at you, you look like a heavy-metal fucking reject.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cSit the fuck down,\u201d Ramone said.<\/p>\n

\u201cThis is fucking punk rock right here,\u201d L7\u2019s Sparks then opined. \u201cUnpolished, unrehearsed, off the fucking rails.\u201d<\/p>\n

In a moment of positivity and scene unity, Sparks said she\u2019d drawn inspiration from both the Sex Pistols<\/a> and the Ramones. \u201cI just want to say that I knew about the Ramones and the Sex Pistols before I knew about Iggy and the MC5,\u201d she said. \u201cAs a teenager, those were the two bands that were my youthquake, earthquake.\u201d Lydon attempted to interrupt her, and she said, \u201cHang on, tiger. Take it easy, tiger. Let the broad speak for a second. \u2026 What was cool when I discovered these bands was there was such horrible, horrible music on the radio. It was god awaful. It was the mid to late Seventies and it was boring, over-30s music. It was just terrible. And then when I heard the Ramones, I was like, \u2018Oh, my God. This is, like, for teenagers. Oh, it\u2019s speaking to me. It\u2019s teenage, it\u2019s fun, I want to dance to it.\u2019 And then when I heard the Sex Pistols, I was like, \u2018I am fucking terrified of this band, and I love it.\u201d<\/p>\n

via:: Rolling Stone<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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