{"id":2447153,"date":"2019-08-05T06:40:00","date_gmt":"2019-08-05T12:40:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/news\/business-monday-its-all-about-china-at-aspen-debate\/"},"modified":"2019-08-05T06:40:00","modified_gmt":"2019-08-05T12:40:00","slug":"business-monday-its-all-about-china-at-aspen-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kspn\/local-news\/business-monday-its-all-about-china-at-aspen-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"Business Monday: It\u2019s all about China at Aspen debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure class=\"wp-block-image p402_hide\">\n<div class=\"caption-container\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"620\" height=\"389\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2019\/08\/bizcover-atd-080519.jpg\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-post-image\" alt srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2019\/08\/bizcover-atd-080519.jpg 620w, https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2019\/08\/bizcover-atd-080519-300x188.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 620px) 100vw, 620px\"><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText DropCap\">As the tariff war between the U.S. and China heated up even more last week, the majority of an Aspen audience concluded Friday that the Trump administration\u2019s current policy toward the superpower nation is not productive.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The timing of the Oxford-style debate regarding the U.S.\u2019s tense relations with China, hosted by the nonprofit Intelligence Squared and Aspen Strategy Group at Paepcke Auditorium, came the same week President Donald Trump announced the introduction of tariffs on Chinese imports worth $300 billion, the Federal Reserve made its first cut in interest rates in more than a decade and stock exchanges staggered.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">U.S. relations with China have triggered concerns about a downturn in the global market, a fact not lost on Nicholas Burns, executive director of Aspen Strategy Group, a division of the Aspen Institute.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cI think this issue tonight is the most important question facing the American people and it will be for the next couple of decades: How do we deal with a stronger, more assertive China challenging us on economics and in trade?\u201d he told moderator John Donvan in opening remarks to the debate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Contestants in the debate noted the China question isn\u2019t one driven by partisan politics; a number of Republicans and Democrats agree that more aggressive measures should be taken against the country that has been bullish on the growth and development of its infrastructure, technology and military strength.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Kori Schake, deputy-director general of the International Institute for Strategic Studies, joined Michael Pillsbury, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and adviser to Trump, in arguing favorably for the motion, stating, \u201cThe recent U.S. policy towards China is productive.\u201d While no fan of Trump, Schake said time will tell when it comes to whether the U.S. comes out ahead in the tariff wars.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cI do believe (in) a policy that imposes enough cost on China that they begin to play by the rules of the international economic order, rather than just taking the benefits of partial participation, partial opening of their markets, partial access for others,\u201d she said. \u201cI think in the long run that could be useful, but the president can\u2019t do basic math; he doesn\u2019t understand that American consumers are fighting the tariffs.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Even so, Schake noted that tariff proponents \u201cmake a decent point that us accepting near-term risk to reset the rules that China plays by is a near-term loss that brings us long-term gain.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The tariff talks also have resulted in a falling growth rate for China\u2019s GDP, which Pillsbury said is a good thing because it shows China is getting the message.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cThe Chinese are very worried about this,\u201d he said. \u201cPresident Trump in some ways has encouraged their worrying because he said six times now on different TV shows that if Hillary Clinton had won, China would be surpassing America now during her term, and \u2018this is not going to happen on my watch.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Yet Jake Sullivan, former national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden, said the GPD growth-rate drop is not significant enough to show that recent U.S. trade policy with China is having its desired effect. Sullivan, along with Graham Allison, who was Bill Clinton\u2019s assistant secretary of defense, argued against the motion.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cIf going from 6.7% GDP growth last year to 6.2% of China GPD growth this year, if that\u2019s your measure of a productive policy, we are going to lose over the long term,\u201d Sullivan said. \u201cBecause at the end of the day, while we are imposing these tariffs and American farmers and consumers are paying all the costs while China lowers its tariffs for everyone else, we are focused on steel, soy, coal. China\u2019s focused on quantum computing, AI, biotechnology. They\u2019re not thinking about their growth rate in next quarter; they\u2019re thinking about their growth rate in the next quarter-century.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Sullivan also made the case for a prosperous China, so long as it plays by the rules.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cIt\u2019s all fine and good to think about how to slow China down,\u201d he said, \u201cbut I believe that the most unproductive policy of this administration has been to not making investments that would make America run faster and win the economic competition.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Allison and Sullivan\u2019s arguments also won over the audience, which before the debate voted 26% in favor of the motion, 51% against it, and 23% undecided.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">At the debate\u2019s conclusion, 83% said they did not find U.S. policy toward China productive, while 15% said they did.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText Tagline\"><a href=\"mailto:rcarroll@aspentimes.com\">rcarroll@aspentimes.com<\/a><\/p>\n<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/news\/business-monday-its-all-about-china-at-aspen-debate\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">via:: The Aspen Times<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As the tariff war between the U.S. and China heated up even more last week, the majority of an Aspen audience concluded Friday that the Trump administration\u2019s current policy toward the superpower nation is not productive. 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