{"id":2454846,"date":"2020-02-21T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-02-21T07:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/?p=321304"},"modified":"2020-02-21T08:07:49","modified_gmt":"2020-02-21T15:07:49","slug":"local-listeners-emphasize-the-need-for-music-at-apr-board-meeting-thursday","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alwaysmountaintime.com\/kspn\/local-news\/local-listeners-emphasize-the-need-for-music-at-apr-board-meeting-thursday\/","title":{"rendered":"Local listeners emphasize the need for music at APR board meeting Thursday"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"swift-gallery p402_hide\" readability=\"6.6135303265941\">\n<ul id=\"imageGallery-321304-777\" class=\"gallery list-unstyled\">\n<li data-thumb=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-150x150.jpg\" data-src=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-1024x682.jpg\" data-sub-html=\"Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times | Dan Sadowski addresses the Aspen Public Radio board of directors with his opinions about the recent decision to eliminate music during a meeting at the Aspen Square Condominiums Hotel on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. (Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times)\" class=\"h-100\" readability=\"0\">\n<div class=\"caption\" readability=\"10.651408450704\">\n<p><strong>Dan Sadowski addresses the Aspen Public Radio board of directors with his opinions about the recent decision to eliminate music during a meeting at the Aspen Square Condominiums Hotel on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. (Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times)<\/strong><br \/>Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times<br \/><a class=\"buy-link\" href=\"http:\/\/aspentimes.mycapture.com\/mycapture\/remoteimage.asp?backtext=Return+to+AspenTimes.com&amp;backurl=https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/news\/apr-listeners-emphasize-the-need-for-music\/&amp;image=https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-1024x682.jpg&amp;notes=https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1.jpg\"><i class=\"fas fa-shopping-cart\"><\/i> Buy Photo<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"row no-gutters h-100\">\n<div class=\"col my-auto\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-1024x682.jpg\" data-no-lazy=\"1\" alt=\"Dan Sadowski addresses the Aspen Public Radio board of directors with his opinions about the recent decision to eliminate music during a meeting at the Aspen Square Condominiums Hotel on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. (Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times)\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li data-thumb=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-1-150x150.jpg\" data-src=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-1-1024x682.jpg\" data-sub-html=\"Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times | The conference room at the Aspen Square Condominiums Hotel was filled with concerned members of the public to address the Aspen Public Radio board of directors on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. (Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times)\" class=\"h-100\" readability=\"0\">\n<div class=\"caption\" readability=\"10.619230769231\">\n<p><strong>The conference room at the Aspen Square Condominiums Hotel was filled with concerned members of the public to address the Aspen Public Radio board of directors on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. (Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times)<\/strong><br \/>Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times<br \/><a class=\"buy-link\" href=\"http:\/\/aspentimes.mycapture.com\/mycapture\/remoteimage.asp?backtext=Return+to+AspenTimes.com&amp;backurl=https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/news\/apr-listeners-emphasize-the-need-for-music\/&amp;image=https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-1-1024x682.jpg&amp;notes=https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-1.jpg\"><i class=\"fas fa-shopping-cart\"><\/i> Buy Photo<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"row no-gutters h-100\">\n<div class=\"col my-auto\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-1-1024x682.jpg\" data-no-lazy=\"1\" alt=\"The conference room at the Aspen Square Condominiums Hotel was filled with concerned members of the public to address the Aspen Public Radio board of directors on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. (Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times)\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li data-thumb=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-2-150x150.jpg\" data-src=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-2-1024x686.jpg\" data-sub-html=\"Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times | The Aspen Public Radio board of directors listen to peoples suggestions and concerns about a recent decision to eliminate music on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. (Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times)\" class=\"h-100\" readability=\"0\">\n<div class=\"caption\" readability=\"10.565789473684\">\n<p><strong>The Aspen Public Radio board of directors listen to peoples suggestions and concerns about a recent decision to eliminate music on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. (Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times)<\/strong><br \/>Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times<br \/><a class=\"buy-link\" href=\"http:\/\/aspentimes.mycapture.com\/mycapture\/remoteimage.asp?backtext=Return+to+AspenTimes.com&amp;backurl=https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/news\/apr-listeners-emphasize-the-need-for-music\/&amp;image=https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-2-1024x686.jpg&amp;notes=https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-2.jpg\"><i class=\"fas fa-shopping-cart\"><\/i> Buy Photo<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"row no-gutters h-100\">\n<div class=\"col my-auto\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-2-1024x686.jpg\" data-no-lazy=\"1\" alt=\"The Aspen Public Radio board of directors listen to peoples suggestions and concerns about a recent decision to eliminate music on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. (Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times)\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li data-thumb=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-3-150x150.jpg\" data-src=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-3-1024x682.jpg\" data-sub-html=\"Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times | Michael Stranahan, center, addresses the Aspen Public Radio board of directors on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. Stranahan was the host of the Classical Music from Aspen radio show for roughly 10 years. (Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times)\" class=\"h-100\" readability=\"0.96654275092937\">\n<div class=\"caption\" readability=\"12.565055762082\">\n<p><strong>Michael Stranahan, center, addresses the Aspen Public Radio board of directors on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. Stranahan was the host of the Classical Music from Aspen radio show for roughly 10 years. (Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times)<\/strong><br \/>Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times<br \/><a class=\"buy-link\" href=\"http:\/\/aspentimes.mycapture.com\/mycapture\/remoteimage.asp?backtext=Return+to+AspenTimes.com&amp;backurl=https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/news\/apr-listeners-emphasize-the-need-for-music\/&amp;image=https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-3-1024x682.jpg&amp;notes=https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-3.jpg\"><i class=\"fas fa-shopping-cart\"><\/i> Buy Photo<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"row no-gutters h-100\">\n<div class=\"col my-auto\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-3-1024x682.jpg\" data-no-lazy=\"1\" alt=\"Michael Stranahan, center, addresses the Aspen Public Radio board of directors on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. Stranahan was the host of the Classical Music from Aspen radio show for roughly 10 years. (Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times)\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li data-thumb=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-4-150x150.jpg\" data-src=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-4-1024x684.jpg\" data-sub-html=\"Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times | Sandy Sattler, center right, addresses her concerns to the Aspen Public Radio board of directors during a meeting on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. (Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times)\" class=\"h-100\" readability=\"0.95794392523364\">\n<div class=\"caption\" readability=\"12.453271028037\">\n<p><strong>Sandy Sattler, center right, addresses her concerns to the Aspen Public Radio board of directors during a meeting on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. (Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times)<\/strong><br \/>Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times<br \/><a class=\"buy-link\" href=\"http:\/\/aspentimes.mycapture.com\/mycapture\/remoteimage.asp?backtext=Return+to+AspenTimes.com&amp;backurl=https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/news\/apr-listeners-emphasize-the-need-for-music\/&amp;image=https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-4-1024x684.jpg&amp;notes=https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-4.jpg\"><i class=\"fas fa-shopping-cart\"><\/i> Buy Photo<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"row no-gutters h-100\">\n<div class=\"col my-auto\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.aspentimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/5\/2020\/02\/APR1-atd-022120-1-4-1024x684.jpg\" data-no-lazy=\"1\" alt=\"Sandy Sattler, center right, addresses her concerns to the Aspen Public Radio board of directors during a meeting on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. (Kelsey Brunner\/The Aspen Times)\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p class=\"caption-toggle\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/news\/apr-listeners-emphasize-the-need-for-music\/#\" class=\"show-captions\">Show Captions<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/news\/apr-listeners-emphasize-the-need-for-music\/#\" class=\"hide-captions\">Hide Captions<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText DropCap\">From DJ stories about interacting with listeners from Aspen to South America, to singing the first lines of \u201cSomewhere Over the Rainbow\u201d as a group, dozens of former volunteers and local residents emphasized the need Thursday for music on KAJX Aspen Public Radio as a reprieve and complement to the news.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The over 50-person turnout was for APR\u2019s first board of directors meeting since the station debuted its more news-focused schedule, which includes the addition of renowned national and international journalism programs and local news initiatives, but not the weekly local music shows headed by volunteer DJs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cWe don\u2019t know everything, we get things wrong, so we\u2019re here to hear your ideas and your thoughts,\u201d said Doug Carlston, chairman of the APR board of directors. \u201cWhat we really want to do is give each of you the time to talk to us, complain to us, give us your ideas, ask us questions, whatever works best for you.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">After the 11 board members and two APR staff present \u00ad\u2014 executive director Tammy Terwelp and development and community engagement manager Lisa DeLosso \u2014 introduced themselves, the floor was opened for public comment on the <a id=\"N0x14f7120N0x14700e0:N0x14f7120N0x13e91c8\" href=\"https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/news\/aspen-public-radio-removes-bulk-of-music-programming-moves-to-focus-on-news\/\">station\u2019s programming changes<\/a>, which came in January.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">More than 50 people gathered in the Aspen Square Hotel\u2019s conference room for the meeting to advocate for bringing music back onto the APR airwaves, sharing stories about the locally curated music shows and how they brought a uniqueness to the station that is lost with the current schedule, which many said they feel is repetitive, as well as noting the importance of music as a community connector, community builder and building block of the \u201cAspen Idea.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cThe question of including music, whether jazz, classical, blues, rock and roll has galvanized our community. This is merely a representative portion,\u201d said Jeannie Walla, a longtime former employee and volunteer DJ for KAJX. \u201cChoosing to ignore this outcry, in my opinion, is short-sighted and irrational.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">The group of public commenters also voiced to board members how \u201cun-Aspen\u201d the changes were carried out, with the local volunteer DJs <a id=\"N0x14f7120N0x1470140:N0x14f7120N0x13e9408\" href=\"https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/news\/aspen-public-radio-removes-bulk-of-music-programming-moves-to-focus-on-news\/\">reportedly receiving no thank-you from station staff after being let go in late January.<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cThe way that this was handled, and it was spoken of in many letters to the editor \u2026 it was a disgrace,\u201d said Scott Harper, former longtime volunteer DJ for APR. \u201cVolunteerism is the heart and soul of public radio and it was disrespected to the max.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">But outside of defending APR\u2019s former music programming and the volunteers who put it on, the locals present also expressed confusion as to why the decision to drop most all of the station\u2019s music was made in such an abrupt and sudden manner, and why <a id=\"N0x14f7120N0x1470260:N0x14f7120N0x13e9600\" href=\"https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/news\/a-change-in-tune\/\">the survey data the decision was based off <\/a>hasn\u2019t been made more publicly available.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cWhat bothered me about this decision-making process is it\u2019s not clear to me, having read what I\u2019ve read, what the goal was,\u201d said Mick Ireland, a longtime local and former Aspen mayor. \u201cI have not seen this data, I have not seen an analysis of this data and its dubious origin.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">On Tuesday, a handful of former volunteer DJs expressed similar thoughts about the manner of and reasons behind the recent programming changes with the station\u2019s Community Advisory Committee (CAC).<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">According to APR\u2019s website, the CAC is a vehicle for community input about station programming in a support role only to station decision-makers and is a group the station is required to have by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">During the comment period at Tuesday\u2019s meeting, which four committee members and two station leaders including Terwelp attended, CAC members said they were \u201cblindsided\u201d by the station\u2019s decision to drop its music programs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cI was not aware that was going to happen, that there would be a purge of programs \u2026 so my ability to speak intelligently about this with people who approached me was limited at best,\u201d said Andy Popinchalk, who has been a part of the CAC for more than a year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cI didn\u2019t hear about the change either until I read the paper and I have heard from community members who are upset about it,\u201d added Marci Krivonen, another CAC member and former APR employee.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cI think this could have been done better. \u2026 I do think talk radio is good and it appeals to a growing younger audience, but having at least some music is important for this community, too.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">However, the members also said they knew the station had been looking at becoming more news-focused for years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cI remember talking with Carolyne Heldman (former APR president\/executive director) and learning this was a movement and direction she saw the station going,\u201d said Riley Tippet, a nearly four-year CAC member. \u201cSo while I think the change was abrupt, I also think it\u2019s been in the works for a long time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">But while the news focus may have been in the works for several years, many of the former local DJs and residents present emphasized how music programming is what makes KAJX uniquely Aspen and a true community radio station.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">They also referred to The Aspen Times weekly poll \u2014 which 620 people participated in last week and shows 54.5% of respondents want the old APR format restored, 23.5% want a mix of music and news and 11.5% just news \u2014 as an indicator to the importance of music on APR.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Within the last five minutes of the CAC meeting, one local, Martin Horowitz, directly asked Terwelp how the station would respond to the many listeners voicing their desire for music to return to APR.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cWould you be willing to back off your position and be flexible to maybe inject back into the system of the radio some of the music shows? Is that a possibility?\u201d Horowitz asked.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cOne of the things we are looking at is possibly \u2014 and I want to be clear we are just looking at this \u2014 a second signal but it is in its infancy so I don\u2019t want to say much more than that,\u201d Terwelp said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cThere are some things we will be looking at but as far as reversing what we have on Aspen Public Radio and the direction, our main signal is going to stay what it is.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">But at the Thursday night board of directors meeting, there was less finality from board chair Carlston about the future of music at the station.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">He said the station\u2019s three-year strategic plan favors local content moving forward, and that the board wants to be responsive to the opinions and ideas expressed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">After the over 90-minute public comment period, the station\u2019s board of directors met briefly before going into executive session to discuss human resources-related topics. Terwelp could not be reached for comment after the board meeting Thursday.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">Because the members didn\u2019t have much time to discuss the station\u2019s next steps, Carlston said the board will attempt to schedule another gathering before its next regular meeting in March, and is determined to \u201cdiscuss every one\u201d of the ideas and items of feedback presented Thursday. When asked if there is a short-term possibility of bringing some music back to APR, Carlston said that\u2019s always on the table.<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText\">\u201cToday was really about gathering info,\u201d he said. \u201cWe received a lot of good ideas and feedback and we will do our best to support the community in every way we can.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"STND-STND BodyText Tagline\"><a href=\"mailto:mvincent@aspentimes.com\">mvincent@aspentimes.com<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.aspentimes.com\/news\/apr-listeners-emphasize-the-need-for-music\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">via:: The Aspen Times<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dan Sadowski addresses the Aspen Public Radio board of directors with his opinions about the recent decision to eliminate music during a meeting at the Aspen Square Condominiums Hotel on Thursday, Feb. 20, 2020. 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